“Not American enough”: Life as an Asian American in the time of COVID-19

During this pandemic, it feels like I cannot be American enough. Based on physical appearance alone, Asian Americans are deemed the “other” and if we are the other, it is easier to dehumanize us.

Indeed’s Asian Network provides perspective on xenophobia and racism associated with the COVID-19 outbreak

Rick Chen is a Program Manager in the Talent Attraction organization in Austin, Texas and a member of the Asian Network Inclusion Resource Group (IRG) at Indeed. He lived in Taiwan as a child and later worked there as an adult for 4 years. He is a native of Houston, avid traveler and lover of tacos.

Having experienced SARS via my family in Taiwan in 2003, I already had a sense of what to anticipate when I realized the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic. From food, cleaning supplies and day-to-day items, I had a pretty good idea of what I would need to ride out the current scenario.

What I hadn’t anticipated was the xenophobia and racism that I and many Asian Americans have faced in the last few months since the outbreak began.

In this together, but singled out

While the coronavirus may have originated in Wuhan, China, it does not discriminate against anyone; old/young, male/female, Black/White/Asian/LatinX, Religious/Non-Religious, it doesn’t care. 

In spite of this, many people around the world are taking out their fear and frustration on people of Asian descent simply because of the association of where the virus originated, calling it the ‘Wuhan Virus, ‘Chinese Virus’ or other joking names like ‘Kung Flu,’ which doesn’t help the situation, as it again associates a region or an Asian stereotype with the virus.

Not American enough

Christina Edwards

I’ve talked with many of my fellow Indeedians and members of Indeed’s Asian Network about their experiences being Asian American today. My colleague Christina Edwards’ story on our internal blog resonates with me and many Asian Americans right now.

“During this pandemic, it feels like I cannot be American enough. Based on physical appearance alone, Asian Americans are deemed the “other” and if we are the other, it is easier to dehumanize us. It is ok to point fingers, post “funny” memes, write racial slurs on face masks, go off on rants or physically assault someone you don’t even know, all based on the perception of what an American should look like.”

I’ve felt exasperated and angry at the news of people verbally and/or physically assaulting Asians/Asian Americans, accusing them of spreading the coronavirus and using derogatory remarks.

According to the Asian Pacific Policy & Planning Council’s Stop AAPI Hate website, which launched on March 19th, they received over 1,100 incident reports of verbal harassment, shunning and physical assault in just two weeks

Fighting the stigma

Despite all the negativity, I’m optimistic that this is a learning opportunity, not just for Americans, but for everyone globally. I say this because of the myriad conversations I’ve engaged with people from all over the world, having civil discussions on what is/isn’t acceptable, and why using terms like ‘Chinese Virus’ are wrong and have a direct negative impact on Asians.

I’m buoyed by the support and transparency that Indeed has shown during this time, from how early the Senior Leadership Team reacted to the situation and implemented our work from home policy to our Asian Network IRG bringing attention to the challenges that the Asian community is currently facing.

With May being Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage month, now is a great opportunity to educate the broader community on the distinct cultures that make up Asians and Pacific Islanders and discuss the challenges we face in today’s climate of fear and finger pointing.

Indeed’s Asian Network making a difference

One way I’m trying to make an impact is joining our Asian Network COVID-19 task force, helping to organize conversations to educate and combat the xenophobia that we’re experiencing. We helped put together an Asian Network Coronavirus FAQ and resource hub with helpful information on how Indeedians can be allies. 

Don Carino

Other ways the Asian Network at Indeed is helping add to the discourse is by highlighting multiple perspectives about the Asian experience on our internal communications platform, as well as hosting a virtual discussion panel titled “I am not a virus” led by our own Vice President of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, LaFawn Davis, and featuring prominent members of the Asian community talking about important topics to educate Indeedians and the community at large about how they can fight the stigma and be allies for those affected by racism and xenophobia.

My colleague Don Carino sums up well what being a part of the Asian Network at Indeed means to him during this difficult time.

“The non-stop media coverage can be confusing with commentary all over the spectrum. For me, the Asian Network became a place where I can give and receive much needed support. The Asian Network affords me the opportunity to process copious amounts of information into knowledge.  Also, it’s assuring to have a place where I can confide without fear of malice.”

Indeed is here to help

Through it all, the Indeed mission of trying to help those who have had their employment impacted keeps me focused on the bigger picture and gives me a greater sense of purpose outside myself.

Don shares a similar sentiment.

“The Indeed message during this time is clear: We are Here to Help. I see ‘Here to Help’ shared amongst my coworkers, whether it’s a simple wellness check-in over text, phone call, video chat or even memes,” he recalls.

“I see ‘Here to Help’ through specialized efforts for the people we serve that are searching for work. I see hope when Indeed helps them gain employment. I see it with the clients I work with, regardless of whether their company is ramping up or decreasing their hiring efforts. I am so thankful, and it is with great pride, I call myself an Indeedian.”

Learn more about Indeed’s Asian Network in the video below.

Learn more about Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging at Indeed and read more about life at Indeed on our #insideindeed culture blog.



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What Memorial Day means to me: A Veteran’s perspective

Only those who serve can experience the strong bonds that form during our time in uniform. The individual to the left and to the right of you would die for you, and for some, they actually have. 

Rachel Cece, US Army/Indeed Client Success Specialist

Rachel Cece shares her story of service and sacrifice

Rachel started working for Indeed as a Client Support Specialist in the middle of December of 2015, just two days after her 25th birthday. Her military service in the Army began in October of 2014. In addition to being a soldier, she describes herself as an introvert, an avid reader, and an artist. 

Memorial Day is a designated day to reflect on the sacrifices made by people who answered the call to serve their country, and it was the last thing they did. It is a day to reflect on the family members and friends that live every day of their lives with that loss, and to remember those we may have personally lost and not let their memory fade away.

I was actively deployed from March 2019 to January 2020 in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and served for almost 6 years as Military Police in the US Army, so I’ve seen first-hand the sacrifice of service.

Remembering those we’ve lost and supporting those still here

Only those who serve can experience the strong bonds that form during our time in uniform. The individual to the left and to the right of you would die for you, and for some, they actually have.

Rachel’s best friend, Isiah

When I am around people in my unit, or anyone in the service, and I look down and see a black “Killed in Action” memorial bracelet on his or her wrist, it always takes my breath away. That is the name of a brother or sister who died for their country on the wrist of a brother or sister that lives with that heartbreak. 

But the battlefield is not the only place where we experience the sacrifice of service, there is also another ongoing war after we return home that service members battle, which is the war on suicide.

Although I did not lose a brother or sister in combat, I have now lost two to suicide. My best friend of almost 13 years, Isiah, died by suicide in July of 2016. In February of this year, a soldier in my unit, Jonathan, also died by suicide.

Since losing my friend Isiah, I have become an advocate of mental health awareness. I participated in a program called ASIST (Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training) and openly speak about mental health whenever I can. I strive to help end the stigma. 

How Indeed supports those who serve

As I reflect on my service this Memorial Day, I feel a great sense of pride in my service. But I also feel pride for being an Indeedian. Indeed goes above and beyond for those of us who serve. 

I joined Indeed’s Veterans & Allies Resource Group as soon as it was announced. As I prepared to deploy, the group made sure to include me in any meetings with our Senior Leadership Team to provide insight into my experience transitioning from Indeed to Active Duty. My managers and teams have also been extremely supportive of my service.

Vets & Allies even threw me a going-away party in the office before I deployed with delicious cookies and lots of Indeed swag to take with me to the hotter climate! But the support didn’t stop there. I continued to receive care packages with treats and swag for me and my squad while I was deployed.

Another way Indeed supports those who serve is with special products specifically designed to help veterans transition back to the civilian workforce. The veterans’ section of Indeed is a brilliant tool and I always direct my battle buddies to it when they ask for help with using our site. 

The option in our Resume tool to filter for those with prior military experience is also a great way to get our heroes hired. Indeed also automatically credits employers back for the contact made to a veteran. It is little things like that give me even more pride to work for Indeed. I am grateful for their support and the sense of community I feel with my work family. 

Simply put, Indeed helps veterans who work here and helps veterans get jobs.

Take a moment to reflect

I wish my fellow Indeedians and all veterans and allies a good, long weekend to take a moment of reflection, and then to live their lives!

Continue to spend time with your loved ones and enjoy delicious food in the process! That is what we serve for, that is what some have died for: so others didn’t have to and so people could have the best chance of living a happy, normal life. I just ask that you take a moment, internally or externally, to remember those who have made the ultimate sacrifice.

Learn more about how Indeed supports Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging and read more Indeedian stories on our #insideindeed culture blog.



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Stuart’s story: How to be a cool work from home dad with 5 kids

Building a DIY Slip ‘N Slide, playing Fortnite and being a pseudo teacher on top of work... That’s just a regular day in the life of WFH for this Regional Account Manager.

Being able to swim, building a DIY Slip ‘N Slide, playing Fortnite and being a pseudo teacher in addition to virtual work meetings… That’s just a regular day in the life of working from home for Stuart Jones, a Regional Account Manager based in Singapore.

I clearly remember the day when Indeed announced we would now be working from home in order to reduce risk to its staff – my left eye twitched nervously.

As I write this blog, I am perched on my wife’s make-up table whilst my son is watching Octonauts on the iPad shouting out facts about the giant OarFish (have a read about it!). 

I would move to a different workspace but other rooms are taken up by the five kids we have at home: preschoolers jumping around to PE (Physical Education) videos on YouTube, a primary schooler who shouts his responses during his school Zoom calls, teenagers who basically ignore me and eat me out of house and home… and, of course, my lovely wife working away in the thick of this chaos.

The once cosy home office is now a school-room-cum-Youth-Club-cum-feet-stabbing-Lego-brick minefield. 

The reality is that WFH for me is not standard office hours or even a standard day.

It’s rebooting laptops, changing light bulbs and finger painting like a champion. 

How have I managed to stay positive and productive? With the support of my manager, team and clients.  

My working hours are broken up so I can spend time with the little ones. By this, I mean being submerged in the pool, being the bad guy in Cops and Robbers and being the hero after creating a Slip ‘N Slide in the yard.

With the older boys, I’m the embarrassing dad playing Fortnite, cool dad when talking old school sneakers and pseudo teacher when discussing Science and English (not Math, never Math). 

When I’m on virtual work calls, a small face might pop into one or two of the calls and that’s openly accepted here with our teams and with our clients at Indeed which mentally relaxes me.

Indeed allows me to work on realistic time frames that fit with this new way of living. 

Finally and quite possibly the most important, to improve the sanity of my family we used the Indeed WFH allowance to buy an additional router.

As we transitioned to work from home, Indeed provided us with an allowance to make working from home as comfortable and effective as possible. This WiFi boost that we got our hands on equals more bandwidth and less arguments #blessed 

We also have 3 dogs… but that’s a whole other blog post.



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Indeed’s Got Talent: A sales talent with a creative mind

In our second installment of this series, Ben Schulz shares how he integrated his artistic gift into his sales job at Indeed Düsseldorf.

Ben Schulz is a Senior Account Executive who left his hometown in Hamburg to join Indeed in Düsseldorf. Ben has a talent for sales but is also a gifted artist. Ben shares how he integrated his artistic gift into his sales job at Indeed.

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Ben Schulz had never thought about leaving his hometown in Hamburg for a job, until late 2016 when he  learned about the opportunities that Indeed had to offer as an employer.

He accepted the invitation to an event in the Indeed Düsseldorf office because he wanted to have a glimpse behind the scenes. 

“It’s been three years already and I’m looking forward to more years to come.”

From the beginning, Ben had set high expectations for himself. “I did not want to move back to Hamburg because I didn’t make it,” he says. 

“This is why I gave my best, hit the ground running and haven’t slowed down. My perseverance paid off and after a short time, I was promoted to Senior Account Executive. I was even awarded with Indeed prizes for my engagement. Unfortunately, I never won a kicker tournament. Regardless, I luckily was not forced to return to Hamburg.” 

When not behind a desk or working with clients, art is a huge part of Ben’s life. 

“I inherited the enthusiasm and the talent for art from my mum. You can check out a small selection of my art pieces and scribbles on my Instagram,” he shares. 

“Initially my goal was to be an artist or illustrator. I even passed the admission test for the much sought-after spots at two art universities. Though, I had the desire to have a steady income and decided to shift my passion for art over into my free time.” 

The artist Joseph Beuys once said: “Every person is an artist.” 

Ben believes a certain degree of art dwells in all actions and aspects of life, and he aims to discover and integrate that approach to the most possible degree, not just in his personal life but also at work. 

“No matter what you do, you can carry it out in a creative and artistic way,” he says. 

Every customer is unique, and has their own history, character, and aspiration. Therefore, when Ben engages with every customer on an individual basis, he strives to create a sustainable business relationship and eventually hit the mutual goal: developing a successful campaign. His ambition is to maintain a relationship with clients that stand the test of time like a painting. 

Although he relies on Indeed’s sales strategy, Ben says the execution of a campaign is different with every customer and the respective industry of the jobs. 

Ben draws another analogy to art: With customers from different industries and diverse jobs, it is comparable to art from different epochs. 

“A set up of a campaign that works well for one client, doesn’t necessarily work for another one,” he says. Thus, he encourages his customers to get creative when setting up a campaign and maybe try out something new – like the creation of a new piece of art.

“In my job I have to enthuse my customers on the phone. You can’t do that with empty phrases,” Ben says. “If you want to be successful you need to be empathetic – and creative! This is why being an artist makes me a better Indeedian.”

For anyone who wants to follow their talent or passion, Ben’s recommendation is to follow the 10,000 Hour Rule to develop your full potential. 

“It doesn’t matter if your passion is painting, sports or sales,” he says. “The approach is always the same. By frequently repeating the activity you improve the quality. It’s important to take time for reflection, which increases the learning curve, too. There is a song by Macklemore with the title Ten Thousand Hours that inspires me.”

He adds another aspect of working at Indeed he loves is the annual kick-off event, where all employees from all departments come together. 

“Once, the whole office visited a soccer game of Eintracht Frankfurt, a Bundesliga team with jerseys sponsored by Indeed,” Ben recalls. “I was never interested in soccer but this experience was one of a kind and has influenced me deeply. For me, these events are remarkable and bond us together as one team on a higher level. It is what makes working at Indeed so unique.”

Hear from Ben why he loves working at Indeed is Düsseldorf in the video below.

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Indeed’s Got Talent: The Great Indeed Cooking Challenge

See what Indeedians whipped up to show off their culinary creativity during our "Great Indeed Cooking Challenge."

See what culinary creations Indeedians have been whipping up at home as part of “The Great Indeed Cooking Challenge.”

Historically our offices around the globe have played a significant role in keeping employees fed and fueled. With this new work-from-home reality, we’ve had to adjust how we feed our hungry bellies so we can continue to unleash our talents day-to-day.

Although our working environments have changed, our appetite for good food has not! To celebrate our rich diversity and keep Indeedians connected, our Employee Experience team challenged us to our first ever #Ratemyplate competition.

Hundreds of recipes were submitted from all around the world with the hopes of making the final cut to be featured in our inaugural “Great Indeed Cookbook.”

Brona Crinion, Dublin Office Manager

“We hope these delicious creations will inspire employees and will be recreated in kitchens across the globe. Our team also hopes that this cookbook will showcase the culture, diversity and sense of a global community we have at Indeed,” Dublin Office Manager, Brona Crinion explains.

“No matter what circumstances we are facing, togetherness is always at the forefront of our agenda.”

With more than 200 submitted recipes and 86 dishes created, “we’re pretty confident that Indeedians will be spending their spare summer time cooking up a storm,” Brona adds.

86 delicious recipes, 3 winners

Below are the winners of our global competition broken down by region. We’ll let these mouth-watering dishes speak for themselves.




#1 EMEA Winner

Bulgur Risotto with baked Salmon


Submitted by:

Rick Hokke, Senior Sales Director





#1 APAC Winner

Pani Puri



Submitted by:

Raksha Sriram, Senior Business Recruiter







#1 US Winner Beef Brisket



Submitted by:

Andrew Brown, Senior Account Executive




Feeding a feeling of togetherness

We are continually amazed with the talent and creativity displayed by Indeedians. The response and participation has been incredible! One of the main goals of our Employee Experience team is to continue to build upon the amazing culture that resonates across Indeed no matter where we are.

According to Brona, “Even if they have not submitted, they have enjoyed seeing the dishes and taking part in the voting, creating a sense of ‘togetherness’ even though we may be physically apart. It also has provided opportunities for employees’ families to potentially take part and enjoy the Indeed culture too.”

Feeling hungry and inspired?

Head over to our Instagram page for more delicious recipes from #insideindeed or check out more stories on our Inside Indeed culture blog.




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